September 2nd, 2024

Vampires and Arithmomania

Vampires in folklore exhibit arithmomania, a counting compulsion used defensively. Influenced by Bram Stoker's "Dracula," this trait also appears in witches and is humorously represented by Count von Count.

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Vampires and Arithmomania

Vampires are often depicted in folklore as having an obsessive compulsion to count, a trait known as arithmomania. This characteristic is prevalent in various cultures, particularly in Slavic and Greek traditions. The modern conception of vampires is heavily influenced by Bram Stoker's 1897 novel "Dracula," which incorporates elements from Romanian folklore. To protect themselves from vampires, people would scatter seeds, salt, or grains on the floor, forcing the vampire to count each item, thus buying time for escape or waiting for sunrise to defeat the creature. Additionally, it was believed that vampires would count the holes in fishing nets, leading to the practice of hanging nets at home entrances. This counting obsession was not exclusive to vampires; witches in Italy were also thought to be compelled to count, with various methods employed to distract them. The character Count von Count from "Sesame Street" humorously embodies this trait, teaching children to count while referencing the folklore. The theme of counting as a means of defense against supernatural beings is also echoed in popular culture, such as in an episode of "The X-Files."

- Vampires in folklore are said to have a compulsion to count, known as arithmomania.

- This trait is used as a defense mechanism against vampires, allowing victims to escape.

- The modern vampire mythos is largely shaped by Bram Stoker's "Dracula."

- Similar counting compulsions are attributed to witches in various cultures.

- The character Count von Count from "Sesame Street" humorously reflects this folkloric trait.

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By @082349872349872 - 8 months
What if https://mathgenealogy.org , which purports to document who was bitten by whom, is a fraud? All mathematicians are actually vampires, and to cover their tracks they periodically "die" (stop publishing under a given name) and pretend to be someone else's "student" (starting publishing under a new name). This hypothesis would certainly explain the mathematicians' conceit ("recall...") that, instead of learning knowledge, we are just remembering what our souls once knew.
By @thinkingemote - 8 months
Bram Stokers Dracula also has something at its core about obsessions in particular time and timetables, planning etc as highlighted by user gwern: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39512188

Dracula is obsessed with the modern world and meticulously plans his trip to England including using tide charts, the telegrap and railway timetables. But he is unable to properly adapt (or overcome the obsession) into becoming modern. The good guys are able to use (and not become obsessed with) modern timekeeping, bookkeeping, etc to defeat Dracula.

Worth to say that he isn't defeated by being trapped into counting things literally.

By @vampiresdoexist - 8 months
I know this is not relevant to the post, but I had to comment for the sake of my username!
By @FrustratedMonky - 8 months
I was hoping for little more follow up about how maybe this was how people with OCD back then were viewed. Or some connection between how people with Arithmomania back then, were turned into folk stories about vampires and witches. Besides the title, there wasn't much connection between how maybe real people with the condition, became a story told to kids, and passed on. Or why did Romania have so many people with Arithmomania that it became a folk story about vampires.

This seems like something that would also be a cool addition to Blindsight. Some further 'realistic' characteristic about how vampires are a real thing. (in that fictional universe of course)

By @masswerk - 8 months
It kind or makes sense: I always thought, if we were take an undead corpse for real, lacking any élan vital, this wouldn't be driven by hormones or reproductive drives (as in popular fiction), but may rather be an abstract, crystalline existence. Or in other words, with Augustinus, the pursue of primordial intrigues, as portrayed in fiction, should be a mere ornament to such an existence. Which leaves counting as a worthy activity and as an attempt to persist basic object relations in due abstraction…
By @Freak_NL - 8 months
> It’s a joke hidden in plain site.

Is that a joke I'm not seeing or just a misspelling of 'sight'?

By @roshankhan28 - 8 months
No but has anyone in actually life has gotten their blood sucked by a bat? like a legit flying bat? on reddit i read this one post where the family saw a single bat that was as big as a fully grown street cat. and then they saw the group of them all the same size?! do they actually suck blood or is it just some movie thing?
By @djaouen - 8 months
Uh oh! Better not teach your children math! Lol