September 3rd, 2024

NaNoWriMo is in disarray after organizers defend AI writing tools

NaNoWriMo faces backlash for defending AI writing tools, with critics arguing it undermines creativity. The organization updated its stance, acknowledging concerns about AI's impact and marginalization of disabled writers.

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NaNoWriMo is in disarray after organizers defend AI writing tools

The National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo) organization is facing backlash after defending the use of AI writing tools, claiming that opposing such technology is "classist and ableist." In a recent statement, NaNoWriMo emphasized that condemning AI would overlook issues of privilege and accessibility, suggesting that AI can alleviate financial burdens associated with hiring human assistants. While the organization has previously accepted AI-assisted submissions, it acknowledged that this could undermine the challenge's purpose. The response has drawn criticism from writers who argue that generative AI devalues human creativity and artistry. Notably, some disabled writers felt the statement implied they required AI to write effectively. In light of the criticism, NaNoWriMo updated its position to express concern over the potential abuses of AI in the writing industry, clarifying that it does not endorse or condemn AI as a whole. The controversy adds to NaNoWriMo's history of facing scrutiny over transparency and its association with AI tools. The organization has not yet commented further on the situation.

- NaNoWriMo's defense of AI writing tools has sparked significant backlash from the writing community.

- Critics argue that generative AI undermines human creativity and artistry.

- The organization has updated its stance to acknowledge concerns about AI's impact on writing.

- Some disabled writers felt marginalized by NaNoWriMo's comments on AI.

- The controversy highlights ongoing tensions between traditional writing practices and emerging AI technologies.

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By @itishappy - 8 months
I'm neither a writer nor particularly familiar with the space, but NaNoWriMo looks like a dying company.

Looks like there was a scandal of some sort last year that led to a community purge of sorts including shuttering their forums. Their FAQ still references this event extensively, withholding any details. [0]

Add the super obvious cooperate sponsorship blog spam [1] (including the apparently removed promotion of their new AI partner [2]), and this looks like a zombie organization that has pivoted to squeezing the remaining value out of their userbase.

[0] https://nanowrimo.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/categories/4403966090...

[1] https://blog.nanowrimo.org/

[2] https://archive.is/49R8u

By @poulpy123 - 8 months
According to wikipedia:

> National Novel Writing Month, often shortened to NaNoWriMo (/ˌnænoʊˈraɪmoʊ/ NAN-oh-RY-moh),[1] is a U.S.-based nonprofit organization that promotes creative writing around the world. Its flagship program is an annual, international creative writing event in which participants attempt to write a 50,000-word manuscript during the month of November.

It makes absolutely no sense to accept stuff written by an AI

By @5555624 - 8 months
Originally, NaNoWriMo was simple and followed the book "No Plot? No Problem!" and the goal was to write a 50,000 word novel in 30 days. No editing,just crank it out. If you did it, you could downlaod a .PDF file certificate.

Around 2005 or so, they started pushing the social aspect, with message boards, tracking progress publicly on the web site, and people having "write-ins" where people got together and wrote. They were still each working on their own novel; but, they'd gather to do it. (I think December became the "editing" month, so they could keep going in groups.) Not only was there a certificate; but, also all sorts of "badges."

As it got more popular, people began to look at ways to "cheat." Outlining and writing some words before November. Not writing fiction. Using stuff they'd written before and expanding it.

I've done it (and successfully completed it) a dozen times; but, then I started skipping it. I skipped a couple to 2015, then skipped them until 2020. I was thinking about doing it this year; but, may not.

By @DazWilkin - 8 months
I think there's no issue with permitting writers to use AI tools to participate in NaNoWriMo.

I've participated a three (or four?) times in the annual NaNoWriMo and completed twice.

When I first participated, I attended a group to help understand how to approach the project. In the group there were several aspiring writers. The group continued after the year's project began and many of the people who most wanted to be writers were already struggling to meet the daily writing quota (so that they'd reach the goal after 30 days).

I think any tools that people use that help them complete NaNoWriMo are fine. People must live with their own decisions and, if the tools write the majority of their submission, that's their decision.

Other people using AI tools doesn't impact my ability to complete the year's NaNoWriMo. It doesn't affect me in any way.

The group leader told us about a tool that she used that would begin erasing characters if she stopped typing for longer than about 5 seconds during her daily write. That's a tool I wouldn't ever use :-)

By @creer - 8 months
AI and AI tools is a very divisive question in all creative fields. Yes.

In the short term, I don't see much alternative but to split each such challenge or prize in two. Which also is not much of a problem.

By @nopelynopington - 8 months
They're up on a pedestal talking about how it's classist and abelist and some people can't afford an editor, but that is not the problem with AI and never has been.

Many publishers have had to stop accepting submissions because they're being flooded by AI generated content and can't cope.

Nanowrimo is not one of these publishers and has nothing to lose here. It's not classist or abelist to reject a technology that generates a novel for someone who can't be bothered to write one, that floods the market, that stops hard working original authors from having a chance of making it in the already difficult game of getting a book published.

By @Ekaros - 8 months
I don't really see that big issue if someone uses a month to work with LLM to generate somewhat coherent and sensible novel. Generate a chapter a day or something and work with prompting until you get it to flow at least from previous chapter if not all chapters. That itself can be worthy challenge. If you step beyond stapled together outputs.
By @Log_out_ - 8 months
Just look at what auto correct does to neologisms and rest easy. Its a machine extrapolating,it cant creat anything truly novel.
By @bananapub - 8 months
since no one will read the article, it's being SPONSORED by an "AI writing tool" company.
By @gamblor956 - 8 months
TLDR:

NaNoWriMo is now sponsored by an AI company, and markets AI writing assistance tools, so they published a blog post to defend this apparent contradiction with their primary goal (i.e., humans writing a novel in 1 month from start to finish).

Their nonsensical arguments have resulted in multiple board members leaving, along with blowblack from disabled and poor writers who are insulted that NaNoWriMo justified their marketing of AI tools with the claim that disabled writers and poor need AI to write well.

By @mock-possum - 8 months
The whole point of NaNoWriMo is to actually write something - and if LLMs are what helps you do it, then what’s the harm?
By @jgordon42 - 8 months
This another example of woke religion invading taking over secular groups to convert them to their religion. Nanorimo is a race of humans against humans.improving writing by volume much the same as time limited chess.
By @lovegrenoble - 8 months
Not a good trend...
By @Halian - 8 months
Death to AI slop.
By @mindcrime - 8 months
“Generative AI empowers not the artist, not the writer, but the tech industry,” Star Wars: Aftermath author Chuck Wendig said in response to NaNoWriMo’s stance. “It steals content to remake content, graverobbing existing material to staple together its Frankensteinian idea of art and story.”

Like the way you stole Mary Shelley's Frankenstein to construct your analogy here?

Come off it guys... the NaNoWriMo org already said they aren't endorsing the use of AI to write your entire submission for you. They're just saying they aren't going to categorically condemn AI across the board. Seems like a perfectly reasonable position to me. Especially given that pretty much everything - human generated OR AI generated - builds on "that which came before".

By @aaroninsf - 8 months
An exercise for the haters:

The following represents a crude history of human verbal communication. Please complete the series with the next term. Take as much time as you need:

- speech and oration

- written word

- paper

- the printing press

- the word processor

- ?

PSA their argument about ablism is spot on and is obviously so, if your understanding of what "AI" is goes beyond prompting an LLM to "do your work for you."

So many knee-jerk critiques of "AI" are premised and possible on when the critic has little or no understanding of what "AI" is, even today.