September 20th, 2024

Amazon says workers need to be in the office. Most of Silicon Valley disagrees

Amazon's CEO Andy Jassy has mandated a five-day office return starting January 2025, contrasting with flexible policies in tech, amid employee dissatisfaction and concerns about losing top talent.

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Amazon says workers need to be in the office. Most of Silicon Valley disagrees

Amazon's CEO Andy Jassy has mandated that employees return to the office five days a week starting January 2025, a move that contrasts sharply with the flexible work policies adopted by most of Silicon Valley. This decision follows a previous requirement for three days in the office, which was met with employee dissatisfaction, including a walkout at Amazon's Seattle headquarters. Jassy argues that in-person collaboration is essential for innovation and problem-solving, reflecting a broader trend among some executives advocating for a full return to the office. However, data shows that only 3% of large tech companies have implemented such strict policies, with most opting for hybrid or fully flexible arrangements. Companies like Apple, Google, and Meta have faced pushback from employees regarding their return-to-office mandates. Critics of Amazon's policy warn that it may lead to the loss of top talent, as many workers prioritize flexibility. The decision is seen as part of a strategy to revive Amazon's original corporate culture, which has become more bureaucratic as the company has grown. The move may influence other companies to reconsider their remote work policies, especially as the labor market tightens.

- Amazon mandates a five-day office return starting January 2025.

- This policy contrasts with the flexible work arrangements of most tech companies.

- Employee dissatisfaction has been noted, including protests against the mandate.

- Critics warn that strict return-to-office policies may drive away top talent.

- The decision reflects a push to revive Amazon's original corporate culture.

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By @ramesh31 - 7 months
For whatever the arguement comes down to, there's simply no way that a given team can be as productive in office as they would be remote. Right off the bat you're losing 2 hours a day to commutes. Add in long lunches, loud office environments, and pointless meetings, and you end up with maybe 2-3 hrs of productive time out of an 8am-6pm (commute inclusive) timeframe. Whereas I wake up and start working immediately, with more productivity by noon than most will have in a day at the office. It just doesn't make sense.

Management can claim "synergy" and "culture" for reasons. That's fine. But we have to be clear that productivity is being sacrificed for those.

By @freefaler - 7 months
There is an interesting trend, that the highest quality people are frequently not required to work from the office. I have a friend who works at IBM on a super cutting edge tech and he has been doing it from his yacht (a small one, nothing fancy) for the last 5 years. (Now with Starlink available he is really happy). James Hamilton at Amazon also does that.

So it might be possible that the market pay a premium for work from office job and suffer the commute. Or the better people won't work in your company.

Also the hiring pool might be smaller when you pick from the pool of candidates in geographic proximity of your office.

And may be our notion that I pay for all your 40 hr./week work hours will be modified and more "freelance-like" arrangement with 10 hr./week or piece work with fixed retainers would be popular.

After the pandemic, the globalization has arrived in full force. Now you can work from whatever you like, but you'll compete with everyone in the same time zone, not in the 40 miles radius from the office.