July 27th, 2024

An Interview with Robert Caro and Kurt Vonnegut (1999)

Robert Caro and Kurt Vonnegut discussed biography and political power, focusing on Caro's insights into Robert Moses and Lyndon Johnson, emphasizing the importance of understanding their personal histories and influences.

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An Interview with Robert Caro and Kurt Vonnegut (1999)

the interview with Robert Caro and Kurt Vonnegut unfolded as a dialogue about biography and the nature of political power. Caro, known for his extensive biographies of Robert Moses and Lyndon Johnson, explained that his approach to biography aims to illuminate the political forces shaping society rather than merely recounting the lives of famous individuals. He emphasized that Robert Moses, despite never being elected, wielded significant power in New York through public authorities, which had not been adequately explored in previous literature. Caro's realization of the need to understand the sources of Moses' power marked a turning point in his writing.

Vonnegut and Caro discussed the transformation of Moses from an idealist to a power broker, attributing this shift to his relationship with Al Smith, who became a crucial patron. They also touched on Lyndon Johnson's complex character, shaped by his early experiences and ambition, which coexisted with a genuine compassion for the underprivileged. Caro noted that while many biographies of Johnson existed, they often lacked depth and a sense of place, prompting him to seek firsthand accounts from those who knew Johnson in his youth. This exploration revealed discrepancies in the established narrative, suggesting that earlier biographies had overlooked significant aspects of Johnson's formative years. The conversation highlighted the intricate interplay between personal history and political power, showcasing Caro's commitment to uncovering the deeper truths behind his subjects.

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By @baxtr - 9 months
I highly recommend “Working” by Robert Caro, his latest book.

It’s an excellent book to start with if you want to get an exposure to his way of working and his thinking.

By @kayo_20211030 - 9 months
Two of Caro's books remain in my favorites today: The Power Broker; and Master of the Senate. The concept of political power, mentioned in the conversation, is fully limned out in both of them. Worth reading by anyone with an interest in how the real world works. Unfortunately, Vonnegut, I never quite got. YMMV.
By @readthenotes1 - 9 months
Power doesn't corrupt, it reveals -Robert Caro

One of my favorite insights, ever.

I also like the line in there or Vonnegut and Caro agree that 4 to 5 hours a day is the max you can truly focus.

By @dang - 9 months
Related:

Robert Caro and Kurt Vonnegut interview each other (1999) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26018824 - Feb 2021 (46 comments)

By @082349872349872 - 9 months
> Well, you stand outside a society and a culture and realize that it is an invention and that you can improve it. Well, I like the American culture, such as it is, but let ‘s get rid of the fucking guns. —KV

So, it's relatively easy to find out that the US currently has about ~120 civilian firearms for every 100 people, but how does that number compare with whatever it was in 1999, when Vonnegut said the above?