August 15th, 2024

Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down' on Google's app store

Judge Donato is set to rule on remedies for Google's app store monopoly, emphasizing competition and accountability, while Epic Games seeks to allow rival app stores within Google Play.

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Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down' on Google's app store

Judge James Donato has indicated a strong stance against Google's monopoly in the Android app store, following a federal jury's unanimous decision that deemed it illegal. In a recent hearing, Donato emphasized the need to dismantle barriers that prevent competition, stating, "We’re going to tear the barriers down." He is set to issue a final ruling in the coming weeks, which will determine the extent of changes Google must implement. Epic Games, the plaintiff, is advocating for the integration of rival app stores within Google Play, allowing users to choose between Google and other platforms. Both parties acknowledged that opening the Play Store is feasible, but they disagreed on the timeline and costs involved. Google raised concerns about the potential for inappropriate content from rival stores, while Epic argued that any review process would give Google undue control. Donato plans to establish a compliance committee to oversee the implementation of the ruling, ensuring that Google does not engage in discriminatory practices against competing app stores. He reiterated the need for accountability, stating, "When you have a mountain that’s built out of bad conduct, you have to move that mountain."

- Judge Donato is expected to rule on remedies for Google's app store monopoly soon.

- Epic Games seeks to allow rival app stores within Google Play for user choice.

- Both parties agree on the feasibility of opening the Play Store but differ on implementation details.

- Donato plans to create a compliance committee to monitor Google's adherence to the ruling.

- The judge aims to prevent Google from exercising gatekeeping authority over rival app stores.

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By @bn-l - 8 months
> “We’re going to tear the barriers down, it’s just the way it’s going to happen,” said Donato. “The world that exists today is the product of monopolistic conduct. That world is changing”

Very cool!!

By @mmmore - 8 months
Forcing Google to stop paying Mozilla to be default search engine would surely be terrible for Mozilla, right? That's the vast majority of their income.
By @jauntywundrkind - 8 months
What's the state these days of Apple blocking PWAs? As of January they effectively disabled them; has anything changed or is there no online medium for apps generally available? https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/745414

Seems like there's some restrictions especially around storage size (50mb) and push. But it's technically possible again. https://www.mobiloud.com/blog/progressive-web-apps-ios

By @lolinder - 8 months
There's a tragic irony to the fact that Google lost to Epic while Apple won.

I choose Android over iOS precisely because there aren't barriers to installing whatever I want. I give up a lot of creature comforts and integrations that iOS users take for granted in order to be a part of an ecosystem where I can count on always being able to install apps that I write for my own use without getting approval from a gatekeeper.

And yet, here we are, with Apple getting a free pass from the US court system because they were completely locked down, while Google's systems get ripped open by a court because they were open enough that they could be anti-competitive.

I worry that decisions like this will backfire horribly—that they'll create an environment where something like Android can never happen again, because no company can take the risk of accidentally creating a market that they might be deemed to monopolize later.

By @iJohnDoe - 8 months
It’s so ridiculous with Google App Store. It’s full of malware and always has been. There is no value with Google’s app store. Also, I thought Android was about being able to install whatever you want instead of Apple’s walled garden?
By @ChrisArchitect - 8 months
By @horns4lyfe - 8 months
Now do Apple