August 26th, 2024

Apple to upgrade base Macs to 16GB RAM, starting from Apple M4 models

Apple will upgrade its base Mac models to a minimum of 16GB RAM with the M4 chip, enhancing performance and supporting configurations up to 32GB, launching in October 2024.

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Apple to upgrade base Macs to 16GB RAM, starting from Apple M4 models

Apple is set to upgrade its base Mac models to feature a minimum of 16GB RAM, starting with the upcoming M4 chip models. This change marks a significant enhancement from the current base of 8GB RAM in M3 models. Reports indicate that Apple is testing four new Mac models, designated as “16,1,” “16,2,” “16,3,” and “16,10,” all expected to be powered by the M4 chip. These models may also support configurations of 32GB RAM, an increase from the 24GB limit of the M3 series. The M4 chip is designed to accommodate Apple's advanced artificial intelligence features, which require more processing power and memory. Among the models being tested, one features an eight-core CPU and GPU, while the others have 10 cores each, similar to the M4 chip in the recently released iPad Pro. The launch of M4-powered MacBook Pro and Mac Mini is anticipated in October, following the release of the iPhone 16 series. Further models, including the MacBook Air, Mac Studio, and Mac Pro, are expected to debut next year.

- Apple will upgrade base Macs to 16GB RAM with M4 chip models.

- Four new Mac models are currently undergoing testing.

- M4 models may support up to 32GB RAM, enhancing performance.

- Launch of M4-powered devices is expected in October 2024.

- The upgrade aligns with Apple's focus on advanced AI features requiring more memory.

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By @danielktdoranie - about 2 months
As an Apple fan, what Apple charges for RAM is insulting. Pre 2012 it was standard practice to buy your MacBook Pro with the minimum RAM, and you could upgrade the RAM yourself buying from Crucial and the like for WAY CHEAPER than what Apple sold the RAM for. To stop that Apple started soldering the RAM to the logic board. I’d have no problem buying RAM from Apple if they charged a fair market price. Sadly Apple seem hell bent on ripping us off.
By @toddmorey - about 2 months
I hate to say it but their minimum configs feel like a pricing scam. Like the price of a hotel room before taxes & fees. Even store employees will tell you that you really have to go one level up.
By @switch007 - about 2 months
I wonder whether we'll pay for it with bumped prices too. Time will tell. And also how much of the extra RAM will be taken up by MacOS AI bloat?
By @mjsweet - about 2 months
Could this be related to their plans for local inference? Maybe the need to load larger models into memory has driven their decision?
By @mathverse - about 2 months
With the amount of electron apps we use we definitely need more ram in laptops.
By @ChrisArchitect - about 2 months
Related:

16GB of RAM Could Be the New Minimum in Apple's Upcoming M4 Macs

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/08/26/apple-new-macs-16gb-ram...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41357796

By @danielfoster - about 2 months
I’d love to see an Air with an M4 chip and 64GB RAM.
By @kuhl - about 2 months
I think the one thing people are missing about Apple is that they silently aren't a PC parts maker anymore. They make the high performance competitor to something like the Raspberry Pi, not a traditional PC. This bump is largely going to be keeping their system specs good enough for AI specs while also supporting someone's normal workload. It's a great upgrade if you're never going to use AI. Apple has made something special with tight specs that the average user doesn't fully understand yet.
By @hfgjbcgjbvg - about 2 months
Bout time.
By @solarkraft - about 2 months
8/256 really are okay for light use and even quite a lot of dev work.

But they absolutely aren’t on Pro models. That’s insane.

By @superkuh - about 2 months
Finally. With 16B the amount of tech support I do for Apple M* products will likely drastically reduce. But unless they also upgrade the storage there'll still be people filling up the internal and then being unable to create the timemachine backups for their octopus of external storage devices.
By @znpy - about 2 months
Welcome to 2014!

The ThinkPad X220 I had in university could be loaded with 16gb ddr3 ram... Who knows what apple will re-introduce in 2034 as an "incredible innovation in computing".

By @throwthrowuknow - about 2 months
Still pretty puny for RAM these days
By @_boffin_ - about 2 months
Any news / releases / speculation on the bandwidth of M4 and the integrated memory?
By @Euphorbium - about 2 months
Should upgrade ssd to at least 1TB
By @talldayo - about 2 months
Wow, if their marketing is anything to go by that's like 32gb on a Windows machine!
By @nwienert - about 2 months
if they can get the better screen from the pro into an air it'd be ideal
By @wmf - about 2 months
Coincidentally Intel is bumping up base RAM to 16 GB also.
By @takiyo - about 2 months
Welcome to 2008 apple!
By @replete - about 2 months
I hope one day they can fix the engineering problems so I can buy a machine and keep it for more than two years without fear of some cheap components exploding. A purchased computer should work for a decade at least. If this sounds over the top, look at what the repair shop guys are saying...

Edit: Thanks for the downvotes, its not popular but an unfortunate reality. These issues are related to 2016-present Apple laptops. My 2012 MBA is running just fine, but I cannot trust these soldered systems.. there's other content around about the 13v being dumped into the SSDs when another component fails. There are engineering issues.

If you want to understand what I'm talking about:

Apple SSDs engineered in the worst way possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbrLiGY4Cg

Exploding USB-C MacBook Ports Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAGnMR1aVuE

By @myrandomcomment - about 2 months
This is likely a function of yields of the process. The better the yields, less the need to bin chips by what works. Likely the M4 yields are quite good at this point. Just a WAG.